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Source: Life In Israel
Princess Kate Middleton, or whatever her last name is now (Windsor?), might one day become the Queen of England. That is, if she should remain married to Prince William and should he one day actually ascend the throne and become king.
Ladaat.net has a analyzed Middleton's family records, and has found on her mother's side of the family many Jewish names, leading them to conclude that there is a good chance that, even if she does not know it, Princess, and possibly future Queen of England, Kate Middleton might very well be Jewish.
I say we send some Chabadniks after her. Get her to start lighting candles and going to the Royal Mikveh. Maybe William will eventually convert. And then what? I don't know what having a Jewish Queen of England might do for us, but it probably cannot hurt too much.
I checked out some other websites, and there seems to be no definitive answer to the question "Is Kate Middleton Jewish?", but it seems almost definite that she has some Jewish ancestry.
Princess Kate Middleton, or whatever her last name is now (Windsor?), might one day become the Queen of England. That is, if she should remain married to Prince William and should he one day actually ascend the throne and become king.
Ladaat.net has a analyzed Middleton's family records, and has found on her mother's side of the family many Jewish names, leading them to conclude that there is a good chance that, even if she does not know it, Princess, and possibly future Queen of England, Kate Middleton might very well be Jewish.
I say we send some Chabadniks after her. Get her to start lighting candles and going to the Royal Mikveh. Maybe William will eventually convert. And then what? I don't know what having a Jewish Queen of England might do for us, but it probably cannot hurt too much.
I checked out some other websites, and there seems to be no definitive answer to the question "Is Kate Middleton Jewish?", but it seems almost definite that she has some Jewish ancestry.
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No she is not Jewish.
A male Goldsmith married out: Carol Middleton was a Goldsmith... and hence the rumors.
I repeat: she is not Jewish.
Of course, Kate Middleton is Jewish. Once a Jew,always a Jew; and Jewish ethnicity can be traced through either parent. Even Sanhedrin 44a concedes to that.
Why did they want a ketuba
she could never be Queen. only samone ho was born in the royal family....
Princess Diana was Jewish...many web-sites trace her Jewish ancestry from her mother's side.
yeah, and osama bin laden was jewish.....?!?
Goldsmith is an English name, just like other occupational names like Carpenter or Wheelwright. One would think non-English people assume no one could have been a goldsmith except a Jew, LOL! I grew up in a small Iowa town where no blacks, orientals, Hispanics, or Jews were - shall we say - tolerated. We had a family of Goldsmiths with absolutely no Jewish background at all. If anyone had ever even suspected they were Jewish at any point in their ancestry, they would not have lasted; it was that kind of town. As for Jewish names in Carole's ancestry, I assume you mean Biblical names, which are extremely common throughout medieval and modern English history. My own father was English, and according to custom there is a Joseph in every generation in every branch of the family for 500 years back, and one of the daughters will be either Ruth or Elizabeth. The custom may be religious in origin, but not Jewish. Not that that would be a bad thing, it just isn't.
I guess once a JEWISH PRINCESS always a JEWISH PRINCESS...
Hey don't you know the British royal family is a jewish dynasty. There is much evidence for this.
for the reform movement, only the mother has to be Jewish and it is passed down. For the conservative, traditional and orthodox it takes both parents so one has to convert. For one to convert, they must want to be Jewish and can not be asked to convert for the purpose of a marriage either.
Umm, that's not true, I am %100 orthodox, chabadnik and all, and if ur mother is jewish you are jewish, it doesnt matter if ur father isnt jewish
true, orthodox or reformist, - does not matter.
Only the mother has to be jewish. In fact just your mothers mother...
Middleton's mother was a Goldsmith. Her Grandmother was called Harrison, but Mrs. Harrison's mother was a member of the famous Meyer banking family, and all females in the maternal line from there back are jewish. Technically, she is jewish, but as the last six generations of those women were baptized Anglican, and married in Anglican ceremonies, can you really say she is jewish?
i heard the Popes JEWISH...
If you go back far enough, everyone is Jewish. We all go back to Adam and Eve. And everyone knows Eve was Jewish. Who else would have demanded a new wardrobe?
@ Nick Nicholson; Perhaps you say more about "the famous Meyer banking family". http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8226828/family?cfpid=-979881659 shows a Joseph Myers born about 1831 in Yorkshire to another Joseph Myers.
i dcnt know if she is jewish or not, but pippa has a lovely tuchas
Oh and don't forget gaddafi is also Jewish.
Personally speaking...this is about as " wild as it can get "......I also think that Pippa is a Shayna meidel, she has a lovely " ponim ".....other parts of her anatomy should be kept
" under wraps "........ and...
" where there's smoke...there's fire"!!!
To be Jewish, one's mother must be Jewish (unless one converts). I am a chasidic Jew and the Torah law is that only the mother must be Jewish for the child to be Jewish.
My opinion is if she has Jewish blood she should
not have married into the royal family. Now the mistake has been made she certainly should not represent in any way the Anglican Church or England. Therefore, becoming the Queen of England is a disgrace.
Ask yourself, would a Jew do this ? I think not. They are very protective of their bloodlines as we should be.
roses are red violets are bluish if it weren't for Jesus we'd all be Jewish
I WONDER IF SHE IS JEWISH...SHE HAS A JEWISH FACE.....
Anoymous says:
Jesus was Jewish. The first person to be called a Jew was Abraham. Let's get some facts straight!
Her family were coal miners. Jews are not coal miners.
The Windsor name now used by Queen Elizabeth II and other British royals dates back to 1917. Before that the British royal family bore the German-Jewish name Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
I am descended from Goldsmiths in Kent (as is Kate). There are a LOT of Goldsmiths in Kent and none of them Jewish
WHY SHOULD IT MATTER ?
Not Jewish either by religion or tribe. In fact it was over heard that Carole Middleton found it offensive and insulting that someone would consider her family or any of her ancestors Jewish.
Jews have been persecuted since the beginning. And forced conversions were common throughout history -- especially during the Inquisition and the Crusades. There are many, good, anti-semetic Anglicans, Catholics and Protestants who are descended from Jews who chose life over denying Christ as their Savior. However, all are bound by the common ancestry to Abraham. And all are bound by the same Judeo-Christian values (except that genocide in the name of their Lord, which Jews gave up in biblical times -- remembere the Amalekites?). And all share the common status of practitioners in waiting... for the first coming of their Messiah, or the return of Christ, we are waiting. And, if anyone has been to Disney during a crowded holiday week, there is often a lot of disgruntled pushing when the waiting gets too long.
--LARosen
To add to the angles of speculation: All male members of the Royal family, from the time of Queen Victoria, have had their members circumcised by the Chief Moyal of London. (It was considered hygeinic at a time when hygeine and medicine were not too familar with each other. And, so, who better to do it than the top practicitioner?) That practice ended with the birth of Prince William. Off point, except for the ebb and flow of Jews and Jewishness into the lives of Anglicans and all others who claim Christ as their savior, yet revile practitioners of a religion he himself followed and never rejected. Those who embrace the teachings AND PRACTICES of Christ would be the truest Christians -- that would be the Jews for Jesus.
Just sayin'.
--LARosen
Reform Judaism recognizes patriarchal lines as well. The mother doesn't have to be Jewish, but the children have to be brought up with a Jewish identity. According to Jewish law, if the mother is Jewish, the children are Jewish regardless of the Father's affiliation.
Fact: Abraham was NOT jewish..he was a
semite. Jews did not exist yet in the time of
Abraham (from ur of the chaldees.)
the word "Jew" is a NICKNAME applied to
jews in europe in the 9th century.
It applies ONLY of those from the TRIBE of JUDAH..thus a
JUDEAN...or JU or JEW. also..the word JEW
does not appear inthe Torah....its the
CHILDREN OF ISRAEL (Jacob Israel) that we
see over and over again...but not the term
"jew". NOTE: ISRAELITES were NOT NOT
JUDEANS OR JEWS. different Tribe.
AND of importance: according to
ancient JUDEAN Law, a child was what the
FATHER was...the Mother's heritage did not
matter to ancient Judeans. IF a man accepted
a child as his own and gave the child his family
name, the child was what the FATHER WAS..not
the mother. the Jewish Law was CHANGED to
a child being of the mother's bloodline.
read the Torah...its the male PATRIARCH's
NAMES that are stated...not the women.
when did they change the Law? probably after
73 AD when 12 roman Legions descended upon
Jerusalem and murdered the jewish men and
took away the jewish women and kids as slaves.
(the seige of Jerusalem and Rabbi Ben Zach'hai..
one of the most fascinating battles/seiges
in military history) thus the Diaspora of 73 AD. just wanted to state the facts. tks
the soul is said to pass through the mothers side, which makes a lot of sense if you think about it. hence someone born to a jewish mother is jewish themselves. this is the counterpoint to the above more practically orientated view.
Even if there were Jews in Kate’s lineage, at least five generations of the Goldsmith clan have been married in churches, so if there was any Jewish link it was lost long ago.
William would not have been able to marry anyone who was not Church of England (Anglican,) if he did he would forfeit all rights to the throne!
http://www.wargs.com/royal/kate.html (Certified Genealogists) says:
As for her ethnic ancestry, Kate Middleton appears to be mostly "English". One of her great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers was a child of Huguenot refugees, and one of her great-great-grandfathers was a child of Scottish parents, thus her ethnic ancestry (as far as is currently known) can be shown as:
93.554 687 5 % English
6.25 % Scottish
0.195 312 5 % French
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100.0 %
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